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University of Minnesota Athletics
Coach's Corner - Dan Berezowitz
5/8/2007 12:00:00 AM | Football
Gophersports.com recently sat down with recruiting coordinator Dan Berezowitz, who is at the point of running head football coach Tim Brewster’s full-court recruiting effort both in-state and on the national level. “Brez” came to Minnesota from the University of Arizona where he served as the recruiting coordinator from 2003-06. Berezowitz built top-20 recruiting classes for the Wildcats during his time in Tucson and is at work to do the same for Gopher Nation.
GS.com: What goes into the recruiting coordinator position?
DB: I think my position has transformed. About 10 years ago they eliminated “the recruiting coordinator position” that they had for so many years in college football. Now that trend has sort of come back to where there are multiple people working in the administrative role. I think a lot of it has to do with the numbers of rules there are on the contact periods, non-contact periods and evaluation periods, and just the extent of all the data and information that is out there because of the internet. The internet has changed the life of recruiting for every college coach. Everything a kid says or knows about you can be on the internet within 20 minutes of a coach talking to a kid so you have to track that and find that information and all the video that is online now the whole internet and world wide web has totally changed the scope of recruiting. A lot of my job in the background is to gather that information for the coaches, keep track of the kids’ addresses, data, getting coaches’ information. I’m like an information pipeline to the staff.
GS.com: You are in the process of spring recruiting. What goes into this recruiting process?
DB: What we can do is have seven guys on the road at one time per NCAA rules - that includes the head coach, he is one of those seven. In the first week of spring evaluation, we had seven of our 10 coaches on the road going to high schools throughout the state of Minnesota. Coach Brewster said when he first got here that he was going to make a presence in every high school that played football in the state of Minnesota. There are 390 plus schools in the state. He has done that along with the other six coaches, been out throughout the whole state. They have received great responses from the coaches as far as the point that he is reaching out to those guys to get their support for Minnesota Football. What I do on a week like that is make sure everyone is going where they need to be. We use all the map systems and everyone has a GPS. We map out the best route between schools. They have packets of information that they take out, camp brochures, SAT dates to hang up in the schools, questionnaires for kids, tapes for games next year. I make sure that each coach has what he needs. It is kind of like a mother getting lunch ready for kids to go to school, making sure they have a box of goodies to take out and knowing where they are going. We communicate on a daily basis about information on the kids. We need to send a tape here or we need to get transcripts there. We meet as a staff prior to the process to finalize our plan. My job is to keep the guys organized and coordinate who is getting where they need to be.
GS.com: Since his first day on the job, Coach Brewster has talked about rallying the troops and building support for the Gopher Nation, starting with the Minnesota high schools. In a little more than three months it seems as though you have completely followed through on that. Was that the top priority for everyone involved with this program?
DB: I think from day one when Coach Brewster had his opening press conference, he talked about the state of Minnesota and keeping the best players here. The way that we learned through (University of Texas head coach) Mack Brown is to put a fence around your own state. What are goal is, is to put a fence around this state and make it so the kids don’t want to leave. They want to be here and play for the state university. They want to represent the state of Minnesota through the Gophers. I think what his message has been through our staff is that this football team represents the state of Minnesota. So when we go to the Rose Bowl at some point, it is going to be the whole state of Minnesota going. Now what he is doing is reaching out to the high school coaches, the secretaries of the school, the lunch lady, and those people are all die-hard Gopher fans or he is trying to get them to be Gopher fans. He is not just connecting with the coaches for future players for the state, but he is reaching out to those guys who coach high school football. He started out coaching high school football and worked his way up. A lot of guys on our staff have coached high school football. Without them we would not have the players.
Everything is changing in recruiting, everyday. They are eliminating text messaging, which is going to be more time that coaches are going to have to be more involved in the recruiting process than they have. It is a full circle thing. Text messaging came along; all of a sudden high school coaches are out of the mix anymore because college coaches used to talk to high school coaches to talk to kids on the phone when they were in their office. That way to reach kids is going to go back full circle again, where if you want to talk to the top player he is going to be in his coach’s office talking to other coaches through him. That has kind of gotten lost over the past few years in the whole mix of text messaging. Well that whole process is changing, so the relationship with the high school coaches is very important. The people that lose touch with that across the country will feel its effect. The relationships that you develop, if they are negative, will really hurt you, and if they are positive, it will really help. I think in this case it is not going to help us only in recruiting, but it is going to help the support of Gopher Football as a whole. People are going to be out there thinking we have to watch what Coach Brewster is going to do next. We will continue to acquire Gopher fans through our trips through the state that we did not have before. There have been coaches at some of the schools that say they have not seen guys for over 20 years. This process for us and hopefully for everyone in the state has been a real positive.
GS.com: You have worked in every region during your time in collegiate athletics, have you seen a coach like Tim Brewster who is at the forefront of their recruiting efforts?
DB: I think with Coach Brewster being a “recruiting head coach,” he has to wear all the different hats. He has to run the team, be the disciplinarian of the team, be the spokesman for the program, be a fundraiser. I think coaches that want to be coaches and call their plays, they have to prepare to be able to be that type of coach. What Coach Brewster decided is that he would hire two coordinators to run his offense and defense and he is still involved, but he is able to give himself time to be a recruiting head coach. I think that in the long run is going to provide benefits for us because as an assistant, the reason kids liked him was because of the way he recruited and built a relationship with them. He would have never got Vince Young at Texas, if he didn’t recruit him as Tim Brewster. That is going to help us in the long run. He’s like your regular recruiting coach when he recruits you. He is taking over for guys on our staff. He is recruiting everybody that we are on, which is different for kids to see because most kids don’t talk to, or only on a limited basis talk to, a program’s head coach - so they don’t communicate with the coach that often. Coach Brewster has made himself open to talk to those kids. It’s a grind as a head coach because you could start with 150 kids before you get down to your 20 or 25. Communicating with that many of kids can be taxing on you, but he has found a way to manage and keep guys interested. That is going to definitely be at our advantage that we have a guy that kids can relate to. He was a proven top-20 recruiter when he was in college. Mack Brown has said numerous times that he was the best recruiter that he has ever had. Here’s a guy in Mack Brown that has had a lot of great coaches on his staff. That being said, Coach Brewster is going to work tirelessly on recruiting. In everything we do, you’ll hear Coach say that we’re going to recruit 24-7, 365 days a year. You never know when one of the kids is going to call and talk. That’s big for us.
GS.com: There has already been a tremendous response from the people of this state to the football program, but in talking with Coach Brewster and members of this staff, it seems as though you view your accomplishments thus far as only scratching the surface of what you can achieve on a local and national level.
DB: I think we have mended fences with the high school coaches and earned their trust. I think Coach Brewster has taken that a step further by going to schools. People at these schools are taking pictures with him, saying, We had a bet going that you’d never be here or that one of your coaches would never be here at our school.’ He’s now earning their trust and developing credibility, and as we go each year in this process we just continue to build more camaraderie with the high school coaches. I think they came in because we had open arms and they wanted a fresh, new relationship. I think now our group is going to take it one step further to develop a friendship with those guys, because I think that they’re starting to trust that our staff and Coach Brewster are sincere with what we’re trying to do. In the long run, those guys will help the kids in this state realize that playing for the Gophers is the popular thing to do, where maybe in the last five or six or 10 years it’s been hit-or-miss.
Some of the kids have been on the fence on whether they wanted to stay home or leave, and I think that is what got Wisconsin over the hump with Coach Alvarez. He convinced the in-state kids who were going out of state that Wisconsin was the place to go. Now they make it very hard for anyone to want to leave the state.
GS.com: Talk about this group of coaches he has assembled. It is a very diverse group, which seems to have the ability to get their foot in the door with any type of kid in any type of region. Is that a fair assessment?
DB: I think there will be a lot of knocks on our staff, and we have already heard it from some other schools that we have a recruiting staff.’ If you look at where our guys have been and what they’ve done across the board when you coach you are judged on wins and losses, but we’ve got two quality, top-notch coordinators and Coach Brewster knows football and he gets a bad knock because he wasn’t a coordinator, but being a coordinator sometimes is nothing more than a title on some staffs. He learned under three great coaches in Mack Brown, Marty Schottenheimer and Mike Shanahan. He learned how to run a program and how to approach every day and how to have a plan to get where we’re getting and I think that has been shown already. We went through winter recruiting to spring practice to spring recruiting and between there, he’s been sending his message to people and I don’t think we’ve missed a beat. I think that is a testament to him and his preparing to be a head coach for the last 15 years. Every day, he thought about what he would do if he were head coach. He knows how to handle himself in those situations, so that’s why that experience thing that people talk about isn’t the end all be all. When Barry Alvarez started at Wisconsin, he didn’t have much experience either it’s what you do with the time you have and the staff around you. That’s why he went out and wanted to hire the best staff that he could and I think he did that. You’ve got guys that can recruit, guys that can coach, guys that can relate to players; you’ve got a mix of younger guys on the staff and you’ve got guys who have been in the NFL and you’ve got other guys who are older that have been through all avenues of college football at different levels. I think that mesh of guys matched with his energy makes guys come to work every day knowing that we’re going to get something done.
GS.com: Getting back to you personally, how exciting is it for you to be involved as the recruiting coordinator for someone who has such a well-documented reputation as a recruiter?
DB: It’s great for me. I’m excited because ever since I’ve known Coach Brewster at North Carolina, he’s always been a relentless recruiter and nothing has changed his style now from when I met him. He still has the same mannerisms, the same everything. He’s able to adapt to any situation he’s in with a kid, whether it’s a certain type of home, whether it’s a certain type of kid, a kid from the city or a kid from a rural area he can adapt to talk to any kid and how he handles the kid based on his experience of either coaching or recruiting high-profile kids. There’s nobody on this staff that you’d have to sit down and hold their hand when it comes to recruiting. You give a guy a map and say Here’s your 40 schools,’ and they’ll come back at the end of the week and know everything about those schools. That’s what makes a coach a great recruiter when he can, by himself, determine and cultivate his area. What I learned from Coach Brewster when I was with him for so long is he knew everything there was to know about his area. When Mack Brown said that he wanted to know about a certain guy, Coach Brewster would know about him. If he didn’t know, he would find out and he’d know the next day. He knew where guys were because he has a great sense of who is attainable and whose not. He knows when to throw in the towel on a guy that is not coming to Minnesota. There are certain guys that we’ll fight all the way to the wire for, but there are also guys that we’ll say that we’re not going to have a chance and that we should move onto someone that we think that we can get. He’s got a real sense of reality about where this whole process goes and how it’s a long haul.
The hardest thing for him has been when he first got here, Texas was getting into the early commitment phase where Texas was starting to gets kids to commit really early. When he got here, with his knowledge of how his two sons were being recruited, we were amazed at how early kids were being offered and how the whole recruiting process really begins during that kid’s junior year and kids are getting pressed on deciding where they want to go before they even play their senior year of football. The speed of the whole recruiting process is what he had to adapt to, but now he understands that it’s a full-speed track meet and that its not a jog. We’re in a sprint and you’ve got to be on top of guys every day because one day they like you, the next day the like the next school, but then they come back to you and its just a long process to weather.
GS.com: On his relationship with Coach Brewster prior to coming to Minnesota:
DB: When I first started at North Carolina and he was tight ends coach there and recruiting coordinator, he was a guy that was similar to me because his kids were the same age as mine. His kids were all still young and I used to baby sit for them and they always have a good time. They were running around and having fun and they’d be at games. I’ve known him for so long and kind of watched how he recruited and just watched how he grew as a coach. When he left Texas and I left Texas, we stayed in touch at least once a month. He’d say I might get in on this thing’ and trade ideas about coaching, and as the years went by we’d still talk all the time.
When he was close to getting the Minnesota job and he thought that he might have a chance at this thing, I went on the internet and looked at the history of this place and I did some research on recruits that were on board and who Minnesota had lost over the past few years. We started to talk about how much tradition there was here and that there was a new stadium. I told him that I had no idea that Minnesota football had so much history and how nice their facilities are with the new stadium coming. I said that this was unbelievable, that this was like a gold mine. The next time I talked to him he was already rattling off names of this guy and that guy who played at Minnesota. He did his recruiting thing of going in and learning about Minnesota. He knew players, parents, as much as he could learn about the school. He had been doing this research and to get the job he got into his recruiting mode again of what made him a great recruiter and that strategy was to leave no stone unturned.
I think that’s the thing about Coach Brewster is that he’s going to fight for every win and he’s going to leave no stone unturned as we go through this process as far as recruits, as far as getting the program to where it needs to be. The thing that’s neat is that a lot of the things that I hear him say if I close my eyes - I can see Mack Brown sitting in that chair saying the same thing. He and I are on the same page because I always would remember the things that Mack would say. I’d say, Brew, what do you think,’ and he’d say, I think we’ve got to do that because that’s what we used to do.’ Mack always taught us to be one step ahead of the game because his focus was to always have a plan. He was into the whole global picture of how everything would map out. Mack was a vision guy in the same way the Coach Brewster is.
GS.com: What goes into the recruiting coordinator position?
DB: I think my position has transformed. About 10 years ago they eliminated “the recruiting coordinator position” that they had for so many years in college football. Now that trend has sort of come back to where there are multiple people working in the administrative role. I think a lot of it has to do with the numbers of rules there are on the contact periods, non-contact periods and evaluation periods, and just the extent of all the data and information that is out there because of the internet. The internet has changed the life of recruiting for every college coach. Everything a kid says or knows about you can be on the internet within 20 minutes of a coach talking to a kid so you have to track that and find that information and all the video that is online now the whole internet and world wide web has totally changed the scope of recruiting. A lot of my job in the background is to gather that information for the coaches, keep track of the kids’ addresses, data, getting coaches’ information. I’m like an information pipeline to the staff.
GS.com: You are in the process of spring recruiting. What goes into this recruiting process?
DB: What we can do is have seven guys on the road at one time per NCAA rules - that includes the head coach, he is one of those seven. In the first week of spring evaluation, we had seven of our 10 coaches on the road going to high schools throughout the state of Minnesota. Coach Brewster said when he first got here that he was going to make a presence in every high school that played football in the state of Minnesota. There are 390 plus schools in the state. He has done that along with the other six coaches, been out throughout the whole state. They have received great responses from the coaches as far as the point that he is reaching out to those guys to get their support for Minnesota Football. What I do on a week like that is make sure everyone is going where they need to be. We use all the map systems and everyone has a GPS. We map out the best route between schools. They have packets of information that they take out, camp brochures, SAT dates to hang up in the schools, questionnaires for kids, tapes for games next year. I make sure that each coach has what he needs. It is kind of like a mother getting lunch ready for kids to go to school, making sure they have a box of goodies to take out and knowing where they are going. We communicate on a daily basis about information on the kids. We need to send a tape here or we need to get transcripts there. We meet as a staff prior to the process to finalize our plan. My job is to keep the guys organized and coordinate who is getting where they need to be.
GS.com: Since his first day on the job, Coach Brewster has talked about rallying the troops and building support for the Gopher Nation, starting with the Minnesota high schools. In a little more than three months it seems as though you have completely followed through on that. Was that the top priority for everyone involved with this program?
DB: I think from day one when Coach Brewster had his opening press conference, he talked about the state of Minnesota and keeping the best players here. The way that we learned through (University of Texas head coach) Mack Brown is to put a fence around your own state. What are goal is, is to put a fence around this state and make it so the kids don’t want to leave. They want to be here and play for the state university. They want to represent the state of Minnesota through the Gophers. I think what his message has been through our staff is that this football team represents the state of Minnesota. So when we go to the Rose Bowl at some point, it is going to be the whole state of Minnesota going. Now what he is doing is reaching out to the high school coaches, the secretaries of the school, the lunch lady, and those people are all die-hard Gopher fans or he is trying to get them to be Gopher fans. He is not just connecting with the coaches for future players for the state, but he is reaching out to those guys who coach high school football. He started out coaching high school football and worked his way up. A lot of guys on our staff have coached high school football. Without them we would not have the players.
Everything is changing in recruiting, everyday. They are eliminating text messaging, which is going to be more time that coaches are going to have to be more involved in the recruiting process than they have. It is a full circle thing. Text messaging came along; all of a sudden high school coaches are out of the mix anymore because college coaches used to talk to high school coaches to talk to kids on the phone when they were in their office. That way to reach kids is going to go back full circle again, where if you want to talk to the top player he is going to be in his coach’s office talking to other coaches through him. That has kind of gotten lost over the past few years in the whole mix of text messaging. Well that whole process is changing, so the relationship with the high school coaches is very important. The people that lose touch with that across the country will feel its effect. The relationships that you develop, if they are negative, will really hurt you, and if they are positive, it will really help. I think in this case it is not going to help us only in recruiting, but it is going to help the support of Gopher Football as a whole. People are going to be out there thinking we have to watch what Coach Brewster is going to do next. We will continue to acquire Gopher fans through our trips through the state that we did not have before. There have been coaches at some of the schools that say they have not seen guys for over 20 years. This process for us and hopefully for everyone in the state has been a real positive.
GS.com: You have worked in every region during your time in collegiate athletics, have you seen a coach like Tim Brewster who is at the forefront of their recruiting efforts?
DB: I think with Coach Brewster being a “recruiting head coach,” he has to wear all the different hats. He has to run the team, be the disciplinarian of the team, be the spokesman for the program, be a fundraiser. I think coaches that want to be coaches and call their plays, they have to prepare to be able to be that type of coach. What Coach Brewster decided is that he would hire two coordinators to run his offense and defense and he is still involved, but he is able to give himself time to be a recruiting head coach. I think that in the long run is going to provide benefits for us because as an assistant, the reason kids liked him was because of the way he recruited and built a relationship with them. He would have never got Vince Young at Texas, if he didn’t recruit him as Tim Brewster. That is going to help us in the long run. He’s like your regular recruiting coach when he recruits you. He is taking over for guys on our staff. He is recruiting everybody that we are on, which is different for kids to see because most kids don’t talk to, or only on a limited basis talk to, a program’s head coach - so they don’t communicate with the coach that often. Coach Brewster has made himself open to talk to those kids. It’s a grind as a head coach because you could start with 150 kids before you get down to your 20 or 25. Communicating with that many of kids can be taxing on you, but he has found a way to manage and keep guys interested. That is going to definitely be at our advantage that we have a guy that kids can relate to. He was a proven top-20 recruiter when he was in college. Mack Brown has said numerous times that he was the best recruiter that he has ever had. Here’s a guy in Mack Brown that has had a lot of great coaches on his staff. That being said, Coach Brewster is going to work tirelessly on recruiting. In everything we do, you’ll hear Coach say that we’re going to recruit 24-7, 365 days a year. You never know when one of the kids is going to call and talk. That’s big for us.
GS.com: There has already been a tremendous response from the people of this state to the football program, but in talking with Coach Brewster and members of this staff, it seems as though you view your accomplishments thus far as only scratching the surface of what you can achieve on a local and national level.
DB: I think we have mended fences with the high school coaches and earned their trust. I think Coach Brewster has taken that a step further by going to schools. People at these schools are taking pictures with him, saying, We had a bet going that you’d never be here or that one of your coaches would never be here at our school.’ He’s now earning their trust and developing credibility, and as we go each year in this process we just continue to build more camaraderie with the high school coaches. I think they came in because we had open arms and they wanted a fresh, new relationship. I think now our group is going to take it one step further to develop a friendship with those guys, because I think that they’re starting to trust that our staff and Coach Brewster are sincere with what we’re trying to do. In the long run, those guys will help the kids in this state realize that playing for the Gophers is the popular thing to do, where maybe in the last five or six or 10 years it’s been hit-or-miss.
Some of the kids have been on the fence on whether they wanted to stay home or leave, and I think that is what got Wisconsin over the hump with Coach Alvarez. He convinced the in-state kids who were going out of state that Wisconsin was the place to go. Now they make it very hard for anyone to want to leave the state.
GS.com: Talk about this group of coaches he has assembled. It is a very diverse group, which seems to have the ability to get their foot in the door with any type of kid in any type of region. Is that a fair assessment?
DB: I think there will be a lot of knocks on our staff, and we have already heard it from some other schools that we have a recruiting staff.’ If you look at where our guys have been and what they’ve done across the board when you coach you are judged on wins and losses, but we’ve got two quality, top-notch coordinators and Coach Brewster knows football and he gets a bad knock because he wasn’t a coordinator, but being a coordinator sometimes is nothing more than a title on some staffs. He learned under three great coaches in Mack Brown, Marty Schottenheimer and Mike Shanahan. He learned how to run a program and how to approach every day and how to have a plan to get where we’re getting and I think that has been shown already. We went through winter recruiting to spring practice to spring recruiting and between there, he’s been sending his message to people and I don’t think we’ve missed a beat. I think that is a testament to him and his preparing to be a head coach for the last 15 years. Every day, he thought about what he would do if he were head coach. He knows how to handle himself in those situations, so that’s why that experience thing that people talk about isn’t the end all be all. When Barry Alvarez started at Wisconsin, he didn’t have much experience either it’s what you do with the time you have and the staff around you. That’s why he went out and wanted to hire the best staff that he could and I think he did that. You’ve got guys that can recruit, guys that can coach, guys that can relate to players; you’ve got a mix of younger guys on the staff and you’ve got guys who have been in the NFL and you’ve got other guys who are older that have been through all avenues of college football at different levels. I think that mesh of guys matched with his energy makes guys come to work every day knowing that we’re going to get something done.
GS.com: Getting back to you personally, how exciting is it for you to be involved as the recruiting coordinator for someone who has such a well-documented reputation as a recruiter?
DB: It’s great for me. I’m excited because ever since I’ve known Coach Brewster at North Carolina, he’s always been a relentless recruiter and nothing has changed his style now from when I met him. He still has the same mannerisms, the same everything. He’s able to adapt to any situation he’s in with a kid, whether it’s a certain type of home, whether it’s a certain type of kid, a kid from the city or a kid from a rural area he can adapt to talk to any kid and how he handles the kid based on his experience of either coaching or recruiting high-profile kids. There’s nobody on this staff that you’d have to sit down and hold their hand when it comes to recruiting. You give a guy a map and say Here’s your 40 schools,’ and they’ll come back at the end of the week and know everything about those schools. That’s what makes a coach a great recruiter when he can, by himself, determine and cultivate his area. What I learned from Coach Brewster when I was with him for so long is he knew everything there was to know about his area. When Mack Brown said that he wanted to know about a certain guy, Coach Brewster would know about him. If he didn’t know, he would find out and he’d know the next day. He knew where guys were because he has a great sense of who is attainable and whose not. He knows when to throw in the towel on a guy that is not coming to Minnesota. There are certain guys that we’ll fight all the way to the wire for, but there are also guys that we’ll say that we’re not going to have a chance and that we should move onto someone that we think that we can get. He’s got a real sense of reality about where this whole process goes and how it’s a long haul.
The hardest thing for him has been when he first got here, Texas was getting into the early commitment phase where Texas was starting to gets kids to commit really early. When he got here, with his knowledge of how his two sons were being recruited, we were amazed at how early kids were being offered and how the whole recruiting process really begins during that kid’s junior year and kids are getting pressed on deciding where they want to go before they even play their senior year of football. The speed of the whole recruiting process is what he had to adapt to, but now he understands that it’s a full-speed track meet and that its not a jog. We’re in a sprint and you’ve got to be on top of guys every day because one day they like you, the next day the like the next school, but then they come back to you and its just a long process to weather.
GS.com: On his relationship with Coach Brewster prior to coming to Minnesota:
DB: When I first started at North Carolina and he was tight ends coach there and recruiting coordinator, he was a guy that was similar to me because his kids were the same age as mine. His kids were all still young and I used to baby sit for them and they always have a good time. They were running around and having fun and they’d be at games. I’ve known him for so long and kind of watched how he recruited and just watched how he grew as a coach. When he left Texas and I left Texas, we stayed in touch at least once a month. He’d say I might get in on this thing’ and trade ideas about coaching, and as the years went by we’d still talk all the time.
When he was close to getting the Minnesota job and he thought that he might have a chance at this thing, I went on the internet and looked at the history of this place and I did some research on recruits that were on board and who Minnesota had lost over the past few years. We started to talk about how much tradition there was here and that there was a new stadium. I told him that I had no idea that Minnesota football had so much history and how nice their facilities are with the new stadium coming. I said that this was unbelievable, that this was like a gold mine. The next time I talked to him he was already rattling off names of this guy and that guy who played at Minnesota. He did his recruiting thing of going in and learning about Minnesota. He knew players, parents, as much as he could learn about the school. He had been doing this research and to get the job he got into his recruiting mode again of what made him a great recruiter and that strategy was to leave no stone unturned.
I think that’s the thing about Coach Brewster is that he’s going to fight for every win and he’s going to leave no stone unturned as we go through this process as far as recruits, as far as getting the program to where it needs to be. The thing that’s neat is that a lot of the things that I hear him say if I close my eyes - I can see Mack Brown sitting in that chair saying the same thing. He and I are on the same page because I always would remember the things that Mack would say. I’d say, Brew, what do you think,’ and he’d say, I think we’ve got to do that because that’s what we used to do.’ Mack always taught us to be one step ahead of the game because his focus was to always have a plan. He was into the whole global picture of how everything would map out. Mack was a vision guy in the same way the Coach Brewster is.
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